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--- eop:miscellaneous_mobile_devices:pdas [2022/01/05 17:24] – [Sharp Zaurus series] io55admin
+++ eop:miscellaneous_mobile_devices:pdas [2024/05/17 23:57] (current) – [PocketWeb] io55admin
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 ====== PDAs ======
-===== Agenda VR3 =====
+The "Personal Digital Assistants", devices which dominated the 1990s and early 00s with their portable computing capabilities. A large variety of architectures and OSes are found in this realm. MIPS, ARM, and m68k are just some of the architectures found here, with OSes ranging from PalmOS, Linux, Windows Mobile, and more.
-Operating Systems (MIPS)
+===== Agenda VR3 =====
-Linux
+==== Operating Systems (MIPS) ====
+=== Linux ===
-“It is possible to telnet, FTP, and make remote X connections to the device.”
+>It is possible to telnet, FTP, and make remote X connections to the device.
 One of the first, if not THE first Linux-based PDA. Since it supported Linux natively, it’s not surprising to see various EOPs available for it, such as games and typical PDA software.
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 ===== Apple Newton series =====
-Internet
+==== Internet ====
+=== PocketWeb ===
+>runs with Newton OS 2.0/2.1 on a MP120, MP130 or MP2000; It also should run with a MP2100
-PocketWeb
+Supports GIFs, and covers various OS versions across a few models. Unsure if it still works.
-“runs with Newton OS 2.0/2.1 on a MP120, MP130 or MP2000; It also should run with a MP2100”
+https://web.archive.org/web/20210923044148/https://www.teco.edu/pocketweb/
-Supports GIFs, and covers various OS versions across a few models. Unsure if it still works, but any issues could likely be worked around, considering the original page is still up.
-http://www.teco.edu/pocketweb/
+===== ARM-based WinCE devices =====
+==== Operating Systems (Various ARM) ====
+=== NetBSD ===
+>Many PsPC machines are used by the developers for active development
+Quite like the NetBSD port to MIPS-based WinCE PDAs, the NetBSD port for the ARM-based WinCE PDAs is both robust and concise. This port is still supported as “Tier 1”.
-===== ARM-based WinCE devices =====
+http://wiki.netbsd.org/ports/hpcarm/
-Operating Systems (Various ARM)
-NetBSD
-“Many PsPC machines are used by the developers for active development”
+===== bSquare Power Handheld =====
-Quite like the NetBSD port to MIPS-based WinCE PDAs, the NetBSD port for the ARM-based WinCE PDAs is both robust and concise. This port is still supported as “Tier 1”.
+==== Operating Systems (ARM) ====
+=== Linux Kernel, Windows CE... ===
+>Not working: - Keyboard
-http://wiki.netbsd.org/ports/hpcarm/
+Just one hack done for this thing, which is a weird smartphone/PDA hybrid from the mid-late 00s. Normally runs Windows Mobile/CE (unsure of right term), but Linux was hacked onto it, complete with X.Org support.
+https://web.archive.org/web/20121027230503/http://pdasite.pl/kitor/maui_linux/
-===== bSquare Power Handheld =====
+===== Casio PocketViewer PVS1600 =====
-Operating Systems (ARM)
+==== Operating Systems (SuperH) ====
-Linux Kernel, Windows CE….
+=== Contiki ===
-“Not working: - Keyboard”
+>I started porting to the PV-S1600 platform a Web Browser (the Adam Dunkel's Contiki project
-Just one hack done for this thing, which is a weird smartphone/PDA hybrid from the mid-late 00s. Normally runs Windows Mobile/CE (unsure of right term), but Linux was hacked onto it, complete with X.Org support.
+The most impressive part of this one is that it has the web browser. Not sure if it can actually get to the internet, though. May not be a full Contiki port.
-https://web.archive.org/web/20121027230503/http://pdasite.pl/kitor/maui_linux/
+http://hitmen.c02.at/html/tools_contiki.html
+https://web.archive.org/web/20080522082422/https://xoomer.alice.it/simonapetruzzi/
 ===== Cybiko Inc. Cybiko =====
-includes Xtreme (Hitachi H8S/2323)
+//includes Xtreme (Hitachi H8S/2323)//
-Operating Systems (Hitachi H8S/2241 + Atmel AT90S2313)
+==== Operating Systems (Hitachi H8S/2241 + Atmel AT90S2313) ====
+=== CyBorn/SimpOS? ===
-CyBorn/SimpOS?
+>OS - roll out own. I started work on one and I am now reverse engineering the bootloader
-“OS - roll out own. I started work on one and I am now reverse engineering the bootloader”
 Unsure if this even got ported onto the Classic, but there are actual files made for it. Even if it isn’t ported, there’s a lot of information at the dbzoo wiki page.
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-Linux
+=== Linux ===
+>There is not enough RAM and flash to run Linux (at least not on the classic)
-“There is not enough RAM and flash to run Linux (at least not on the classic)”
 Postulations, seemingly not possible. Some useful talk about TCP/IP stacks, though.
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-Prex
+=== Prex ===
+>enter commands on the keyboard, read the results on the screen via a framebuffer console
-“enter commands on the keyboard, read the results on the screen via a framebuffer console”
 Successful operating system port, serving more as an example of what is possible. Slow, but works.
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-Stock OS
+=== Stock OS ===
 The stock system for the Cybiko. Fully featured on it’s own, with PDA, radio communication, gaming, and chatting abilities.
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-Internet
+==== Internet ====
+=== WAP via PC + CyWIG ===
-WAP via PC + CyWIG
 Little on the internet actually demonstrates this, but the supplied link has some remnants.
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 ===== HP (Compaq) iPAQ series =====
-It seems that many Zaurus programs that depend on X11 can be made to work on the iPAQ. YMMV
+//It seems that many Zaurus programs that depend on X11 can be made to work on the iPAQ. YMMV//
-Operating Systems (SA-1110, PXA250)
+==== Operating Systems (SA-1110, PXA250) ====
+=== Classic Mac OS 0.x-7.5.5-8.1 (in Basilisk II ROM #?) ===
+>Since it works on X-Window , iPAQ has introduced it so far
-Classic Mac OS 0.x-7.5.5-8.1 (in Basilisk II ROM #?)
-“Since it works on X-Window , iPAQ has introduced it so far”\\
 Almost certainly based off the Zaurus port’s sources, as they both depend on using X11. Thus, this port of Basilisk II requires X11 + Linux to run on the iPAQ.
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-== Emulation Nest ==
+=== Emulation Nest ===
 This device runs an operating system which is known to emulate various devices with EOPs. See the [[eop:operating_systems:conventional:classic_mac_os|Classic Mac OS]] page.
-Linux
+=== Linux ===
+>Familiar GNU/Linux distribution is made up of packages that can be downloaded and installed
-“Familiar GNU/Linux distribution is made up of packages that can be downloaded and installed”
 The baseline port for a significant fraction of EOPs for this device, but not all. Details and level of function are a bit hazy, but it is capable of running programs. However, it may not be possible for it to remain permanently on the device, ie. it will have to be loaded on upon every restart.
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 https://www.reddit.com/r/techsupport/comments/s2oe7/how_do_i_boot_linux_on_a_pda_hp_ipaq/
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 ===== MIPS-based WinCE devices =====
-Operating Systems (various MIPS)
+==== Operating Systems (various MIPS) ====
+=== NetBSD ===
+>Because of the hardware platforms it supports, NetBSD/hpcmips is an ideal platform to use
-NetBSD
-“Because of the hardware platforms it supports, NetBSD/hpcmips is an ideal platform to use”\\
 Appears to be the most concise port for these devices. Many processors and machines are supported, to the point where listing them all individually would be pointless. Check the page for device specifics and information.
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 ===== Palm OS devices =====
-Operating Systems (various m68k)
+==== Operating Systems (various m68k) ====
+=== uCLinux ===
-uCLinux
+>This information is OLD... take w/ a grain of salt
-“This information is OLD... take w/ a grain of salt”\\
 Various ports of uCLinux to various Palm OS handhelds. Many support framebuffer, boot, and shell, while others fail in some capacity.
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-PC emulation (potential)
+=== PC emulation (potential) ===
 Whether these emulators support operating systems for these computers is unknown; it must be looked into further. PCs without meaningful OSes are not included.
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 ===== Phillips brand =====
-Operating Systems (various MIPS)
+==== Operating Systems (various MIPS) ====
+=== Linux ===
-Linux
+>Don't dream about completely replacing winCE with linux
-“Don't dream about completely replacing winCE with linux”
 Ported to various devices, such as the Velo 1. All ports appear to be dependent on the Windows CE subsystem, but they still will run on these devices.
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 ===== Planet Computers Gemini =====
-Operating Systems (MediaTek MT6797P/X)
+==== Operating Systems (MediaTek MT6797P/X) ====
+=== postmarketOS ===
-postmarketOS
+>The easiest way for now is to use the Flash Tool from official flashing guide
-“The easiest way for now is to use the Flash Tool from official flashing guide”
 This device, being a modern take on the PDA (a phone without cellular and with a keyboard), understandably runs postmarket. Of course, with it’s keyboard and practical function not found in typical devices, it’s worth listing. Not everything runs perfectly, like the Wi-Fi.
-https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Planet_Computers_Gemini_PDA_(planet-geminipda)
+[[https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Planet_Computers_Gemini_PDA_(planet-geminipda)]]
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 ===== Popcorn Comp. PocketPC =====
-Operating Systems (Allwinner A64)
+==== Operating Systems (Allwinner A64) ====
+=== postmarketOS ===
-postmarketOS
 Similar to the PlanetComputers Gemini. It runs something, and it came out only in 2021. Details are minimal for now.
-https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Popcorn_Computer_PocketPC_(popcorncomputer-pocketpc)
+[[https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Popcorn_Computer_PocketPC_(popcorncomputer-pocketpc)]]
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 ===== PSION EPOC32 series =====
-Operating Systems (various, some ARM)
+==== Operating Systems (various, some ARM) ====
+=== NetBSD ===
-NetBSD
+>primarily the Series 5(CL PS-711x), Series 5mx(Windermere) and Series 7(StrongARM)
-“primarily the Series 5(CL PS-711x), Series 5mx(Windermere) and Series 7(StrongARM)”
 An experimental port that requires a custom executable meant for the OS, which appears to be available online. While the original EPOC OS for these devices is based off of an ancient Debian version, this NetBSD port is supported up to the most recent NetBSD version. Not all PSION devices are supported, and the touch screen + sound do not function yet.
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 ===== SH3-based WinCE devices =====
-Operating Systems (Super-H 3)
+==== Operating Systems (Super-H 3) ====
+=== NetBSD ===
-NetBSD
+>Many kinds of H/PC, H/PC Pro, and PsPC systems are supported by NetBSD/hpcsh
-“Many kinds of H/PC, H/PC Pro, and PsPC systems are supported by NetBSD/hpcsh”
 Similar to both the ARM and MIPS ports for WinCE PDAs, this NetBSD port is concise and supports a large group of PDAs with this architecture. More details are on the linked page.
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 ===== Sharp Zaurus series =====
-Operating Systems (Intel PXA27x ARM)
+==== Operating Systems (Intel PXA27x ARM) ====
+=== Classic Mac OS 0.x-7.5.5-8.1 (in Basilisk II ROM #?) ===
-Classic Mac OS 0.x-7.5.5-8.1 (in Basilisk II ROM #?)
+>I have kept both bin files incase Basilisk II 1.0 breaks something that 0.9 ran
-“I have kept both bin files incase Basilisk II 1.0 breaks something that 0.9 ran”
 One of the most functional PC operating system emulators for the Zaurus. Confirmed to run OSes, thus it is given a separate listing.
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-Console emulation (potential)
+=== Console emulation (potential) ===
 Whether these emulators support operating systems for these consoles is unknown; it must be looked into further. Consoles without meaningful OSes are not included.
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-== Emulation Nest ==
+=== Emulation Nest ===
 This device runs an operating system which is known to emulate various devices with EOPs. See the [[eop:operating_systems:conventional:amigaos|AmigaOS]], [[eop:computing:computers:nec_pc-9801_series|NEC PC-9801 series]], and [[eop:operating_systems:conventional:classic_mac_os|Classic Mac OS]] pages.
-NetBSD
+=== NetBSD ===
+>SL-Axxx, SL-Bxxx, SL-5x00, and SL-6000 series are not supported
-“SL-Axxx, SL-Bxxx, SL-5x00, and SL-6000 series are not supported”
 Still in existence, this port of NetBSD appears to support all SL-C Zaurus models, and no others. Most peripherals work, with a few hardware features non-working.
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-OpenBSD (to 6.0)
+=== OpenBSD (to 6.0) ===
+>The OpenBSD/zaurus port was discontinued after the 6.0 release.
-“The OpenBSD/zaurus port was discontinued after the 6.0 release.”
 Stable, functional, with internet, X, touchscreen, and much more. One of the smaller SSH capable machines at the time of porting.
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-PC emulation (potential)
+=== PC emulation (potential) ===
 Whether these emulators support operating systems for these computers is unknown; it must be looked into further. PCs without meaningful OSes are not included.
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 ===== Sony CLIÉ series =====
-Operating Systems (Dragonball m68k or ARM)
+==== Operating Systems (Dragonball m68k or ARM) ====
+=== uCLinux ===
-uCLinux
+>it uses Burr-Brown ADS7846 touch screen controller, but I do not know what ports
-“it uses Burr-Brown ADS7846 touch screen controller, but I do not know what ports”
 Successfully ran Microwindows (x11), with no touchscreen function (albeit possible). Some commercial offerings have been made in the past for this port.
 https://blog.csdn.net/felixz/article/details/773972
+===== Sourceparts Pocket PC =====
+==== Operating Systems (Allwinner A64 / Cortex-A53) ====
+=== postmarketOS ===
+This is a handheld computer from the modern age that can run postmarketOS, alongside (presumably) a ton of other OSes. You just put it on the SD card and boot!
+[[https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Sourceparts_Pocket_P.C._(sourceparts-pocketpc)]]